RE: You are all a bunch of assholes

From wirkus in comments regarding the previous post:

You are all a bunch of assholes. No kidding, you really are. You dont know shit about the south. To group folks into “red state/blue state” and make religion out to be only mind control makes me sick. So did fuckface’s rant. Like only fucking liberals can make art or serve wine. Dumb, man. Really fucking dumb.

Look man, I have nothing against any particular person. I have family in red states. I don’t think of them as evil. However, I think it’s common knowledge that once a group of people obtain mob mentality it DOES become hard to define the group as a collection of individuals. You have to start identifying the group by it’s group mindthink. SOMEONE voted this monster and what he represents back into office. A great many someones, in fact. And what did these people cite as the fact that they voted for George “Abu Ghraib” Bush? Moral values. And what do they listen to? Rush Limbaugh? And what do they watch? Fox News. And who tells them who to vote for? Their pastor. Again, these are generalizations of the group.

Is it unfair to make these generalizations? Of course.

Do I want the east coast, west coast, and industrial midwest to secede? No.

Can someone in Tenessee serve wine? Can they paint a picture? Yes.

Is it hard to accept defeat by a group of people suckered in by hucksters and power-mad shams? Is it difficult to be on the side that spent the last century campaigning for better rights for everyone; only to be spat upon because we may not believe in the Ghost in the Clouds, or simply because we live in close proximity to salt water? YES. It fucking is. So I apologize if I offended the delicate sensibilities of the south. I suppose I should scrape and beg for forgiveness if I’m ever to be afforded a mint julip again.

The linked and quoted story was presented cleary, though perhaps not clearly enough: it was cathartic for me, after being attacked for my geopolitical location and non Christ-worshipping ways, to read about someone who put to paper what I FELT was a response in kind. Does it help patch things up between me and “them”? No, it most certainly does not.

Let me make this entirely clear: I had a lot of emotional investment in this election. I DO NOT LIE when I say that I felt like I did on the morning of 9/11 the morning after the election. I do not make that statement lightly. It took me many hours to settle on that description of my mood. I needed closure; this post provided it. So maybe I’m a pussy. Maybe I shouldn’t become so involved. Maybe a lot of things. I’m willing to agree to them all and move on, but not before I made my final statement.

To wit, I believe that this country can be better than it is. I believe that we can move our country forward; that we can aspire not towards a utopian ideal, but towards a time when there is true equality and a chance for everyone who wants it to get a leg up in society. I believe that the President of the United States should not be chosen from one of a dozen politically powerful families. I believe all this and more because that’s what the people who started this thing believed. It’s not yet time to give up on that, and every time we take a step backwards, every time we regress rights and liberties rather than progress, the pit of my stomach will feel just as it did November 2nd, 2004.

So where are we? I found my closure this morning, and posted it without, apparently, sufficient personal reasons for doing so. Am I still an asshole? Am I a fuckface? Maybe… I just don’t know anymore.

–fuck a signature, someone call “first!”, then someone sign in as TinyRobot and post about how your balls are in a “blue state”. have fun.

15 thoughts on “RE: You are all a bunch of assholes

  1. 1. Great post, Zach; thanks for linking to that girl’s email. I’m going to save it forever and read it when those bastards try to grind me down for believing in equal rights, tolerence, kindness and the truth. I swear if one more person tries to tell me the Constitution was based on the 10 Commandments I’m going to have to try really hard not to spit on them before I say acridly: have you fuckwits ever heard of the Enlightenment?

    2. My mom consoled me with this comment the other day. JEN: I can’t believe this happened to us. MOM: Well, the only thing we can do now is hope that Republicans start dying in massive numbers before the next election. JEN: You aren’t supposed to say that kind of stuff out loud. MOM: Have I ever been the kind of person to keep my comments to myself?

  2. 1. I was calling you an asshole, the writer of the rant a fuckface. I love you and all but a comment like “I can whazz, but can some hick in Alabama?” struck me as asshole. You and this writer make generalizations about people that make me sick. His romantic ideal of a brave young liberal serving wine to the republican buisness-man was phony. Sorry.
    2. I know people who voted for Bush. Your simple-minded reduction of their worldview strikes me as, well, simple minded. Do you really think the world is ruled by country-clubbin republicans voted into office by Hee-Haw watching yokels? Too easy.
    3. The reason this rant failed to impress me is the same reason Jen’s Lincoln joke didn’t strike me as funny: it seemed written to be clever. Nothing more. If it served as cathartic and you really felt as bad as you did on 9/11 then I apologize only because I’d rather not have you feeling like that.
    4. Though I’ve voted nearly exclusively democratic throughout my tenure as a voting American, I do so half-heartedly. Most real card carrying members of the Democratic part truly repulse me. If you are so passionate about this issue and about helping people, my challenge to you is to spend some face-time with the people who write rants like the one you posted, and I encourage you to spend some of your time helping people. Spend some time with a hobo. See what makes him a hobo and see how the programs for turning him into a functioning member of society really work. The world you claim to want seems like a nice place, but I don’t think that a Democrat in the White House will build it any more than I think a Republican doing the same job will destroy it.

  3. This is from my usually not political favorite website:
    Dear ‘President’ Bush,

    Congratulations on your victory over John Kerry.

    Ok, actually, we’re a bit ticked off here in California. We’re leaving you. California will now be its own country. Oh, and we’re taking all the blue states. In case you are not aware, that includes: Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, all of New England, well all of the North East states, and half of Ohio. We spoke to God, and he agrees that this split will be beneficial to all of us. Well, to the new country of California. In fact, God is so excited about it; he’s going to shift the whole country for us. Therefore, if you could just let everyone know they need to be back in their state on Friday that would be great. At 4:30 pm EST, God will move the states around, forming two separate countries. We get the Pacific Ocean – and Hollywood, and all the rappers. We’ll let you keep country music and the KKK.

    Just so we’re clear, our country will be pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and well, anti-war. Speaking of war, we’re going to need our citizens back from Iraq. In addition, we’re keeping San Diego. Sorry, that’s just how it goes. Hey, if you need people to fight your war, why not ask your financial backers? They probably have tons of kids they’re willing to send to their death…for absolutely no purpose. That’ll probably work really well for you.

    So, you get Texas and all the southern states, we get the ‘Governator’ and stem cell research. We would love you to take Britney Spears off our hands though. She is from the south, right?

    By the way, we would like everyone to know that California will now be pronounced “Kali-for-ni-A.” You know, like in the songs, when writers need to use forced rhyme. Oh, and since we get New York, you’ll need to come up with your own late night TV shows. We’re sure some of you people over at Fox News can come up with something entertaining. Why not just use Crossfire? That’s a really funny show. So, we get MTV, the Daily Show, and Conan O’Brien. You get…well, you don’t really watch TV, do you?

    We wish you the best of luck with your ‘new’ administration, and hope, really hope you find those weapons of mass destruction. Seriously, before they find you.

    Sincerely,

    California

  4. Wirkus: that’s what I thought you meant. I’m glad to see that I can still sense your outrage radar. I think from an individual perspective all your points are spot on. I tend to think that my arguments for or against policy at a national level and your thoughts on individual’s doing what they believe in at the local level could meet in the middle with face-to-face discussion. CURSE YOU, UNFEELING TECHNOLOGY! WHY MUST YOU BE SO AWKWARD!

  5. Hey. Let it be known that I’m not an asshole who groups people into red states and blue states. Also, today is Heather’s birthday, so call, yell, scream, or email your fondest birthday wishes to her as soon as possible. Talk to you soon!

  6. –The world you claim to want seems like a nice place, but I don’t think that a Democrat in the White House will build it any more than I think a Republican doing the same job will destroy it–

    wirkus, you are mistaken! that’s why moneypenny and all those bloggers are so upset! shit is going to be DESTROYED!

    George W. Bush

    -Most anti-environmental president in the modern era. In partnership with a compliant Congress, it is busily dismantling the framework of environmental laws, standards, and enforcement that is the foundation for environmental protection and preservation in the United States. The Bush Administration’s “Clear Skies” initiative would rewrite the Clean Air Act to benefit of some of the nation’s biggest polluters while weakening health protections for millions of Americans. Specifically, the “Clear Skies” initiative will:

    -Weaken protections for soot and smog
    -Weaken protections for toxic mercury
    -Weaken Safeguards for National Parks

    http://www.environment2004.org/clean_air.php

    -Unemployment rate up from 4.2 percent in 2001 to 5.6 percent now, a 33 percent increase. This is the worst jobs record in a presidency of any administration since Herbert Hoover.

    -The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.61 billion per day since September 30, 2003.

    -100,000 civilians dead in Iraq.

    -“On a matter of such importance, the voice of the people must be heard. Activist courts have left the people with one recourse. If we are to prevent the meaning of marriage from being changed forever, our nation must enact a constitutional amendment to protect marriage in America. Decisive and democratic action is needed, because attempts to redefine marriage in a single state or city could have serious consequences throughout the country.”
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040224-2.html

    It seems to me you can just go on and on with this stuff. It’s terrible and it’s hard not to be angry. you’re right though we do have to come down off this outrage and try to communicate with these people that we’ve somehow alienated- but make no mistake: things have gone wrong. the train has jumped the rail.

  7. –The world you claim to want seems like a nice place, but I don’t think that a Democrat in the White House will build it any more than I think a Republican doing the same job will destroy it–wirkus, you are mistaken! that’s why moneypenny and all those bloggers are so upset! shit is going to be DESTROYED!George W. BushMost anti-environmental president in the modern era. In partnership with a compliant Congress, it is busily dismantling the framework of environmental laws, standards, and enforcement that is the foundation for environmental protection and preservation in the United States. The Bush Administration’s “Clear Skies” initiative would rewrite the Clean Air Act to benefit of some of the nation’s biggest polluters while weakening health protections for millions of Americans. Specifically, the “Clear Skies” initiative will:Weaken protections for soot and smogWeaken protections for toxic mercuryWeaken Safeguards for National Parkshttp://www.environment2004.org/clean_air.phpUnemployment rate up from 4.2 percent in 2001 to 5.6 percent now, a 33 percent increase. This is the worst jobs record in a presidency of any administration since Herbert Hoover.The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.61 billion per day since September 30, 2003.100,000 civilians dead in Iraq.”On a matter of such importance, the voice of the people must be heard. Activist courts have left the people with one recourse. If we are to prevent the meaning of marriage from being changed forever, our nation must enact a constitutional amendment to protect marriage in America. Decisive and democratic action is needed, because attempts to redefine marriage in a single state or city could have serious consequences throughout the country.”http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040224-2.html
    It seems to me you can just go on and on with this stuff. It’s terrible and it’s hard not to be angry. you’re right though we do have to come down off this outrage and try to communicate with these people that we’ve somehow alienated- but make no mistake: things have gone wrong. the train has jumped the rail.

  8. Sadly no. Take solace, however, in the fact that I turned off most tags in the comments. The only ones that are allowed are {a href,i,b,em,strong,br}. I guess I could add ol, ul, and li to the list.

  9. OK Cal, I fixed up your post. You can’t embed a sblist in an li tag, you have to start a new ul in the li. Hoopty-dooooo!

  10. i don’t want to be dragged into all this craziness…i will say this though…i agree with mr. wirkus…we must as individuals take some time to help others…get down and dirty with the hobos and the damn kids who are out on their ass…throwing money at some of these problems is only half the battle…we must throw a bit of our time at them too

    peace.

    PS: so i don’t come off as some asshole or fuckface…i work with the ‘we care and give back’ organization at intuit which has sent me to build houses for the poor folks and serve food to the homeless…meetings are once a month on some random wednesday

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