I’m Calmer Now

Just to piss Scientist off, I want say that Kanye West’s new album is pretty good. I especially like track three (Touch the Sky) which has the marvelous lyric “I’m tryin to stop lyin like Mum-Ra…”

Also, Whazzmaster Suicide Football closes at midnight tonight. Sign=up before then if you want a chance at a bottle of Dom. Fuddruckus? Manders? Are you out there? Does timmah still come to this website? For a look back, check out this link.

RAJ OUT.

36 thoughts on “I’m Calmer Now

  1. Nice post, zacharoni. Wwhazz, FEMA and congressional offices have been holding meetings and seminars for a few years now to prepare emergency responses to a plethora of imagined scenarios. Their job is to prevent disaster from becoming hell on earth. Not to show up almost a week later with Rumsfeld and be like, “Stuff happens,” or “it’s not our fault” or “Black people are the mayor of New ORleans, so it’s their fault.” WTF?

  2. Ok, that’s enough. Sometimes political moderation is needed here, and apparently that time is now. Neither the democrats nor the republicans flooded New Orleans with buckets of water they passed to each other across the country. The people of New Orleans don’t give a fuck whether the whazzmaster community thinks it’s a fucking democrat or a republican who did this to them. What they do care about is whether you are going to make a fucking donation so they can stop living in fucking sports stadiums and put their lives back together. God damn it, who the fuck cares what the scientist has to say about a hurricane? Go make a fucking donation and stop talking.

  3. All due respect, but fuck that response right in the ass. I’m sick and tired of people babbling about how it’s stupid to talk about the shithole that this country is descending into. I’m sick of the media not talking about it, and I’m sick of people saying to “shut up and BUY! BUY! BUY!” our way out of 9/11, the war, and the flood. Floods happen, and I have not seen one goddamned response from anyone that blames water on the President. What I blame on the President and HIS FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY is not being able to respond in a motherfucking FEDERAL EMERGENCY because he stacked the fucking agency with motherfucking know-nothing Arabian Horse Promoters instead of people that know how to MANAGE FUCKING DISASTERS.

    Fucking actions have consequences, and I will not sit quiet while George Bush strides around the fucking disaster that he couldn’t mitigate because his cronies getting their fucking CASH ON were more important than being prepared to save peoples’ lives.

    So please, cut the shit about how you’re all above this petty political squabbling. Political decisions were made, and now we have 1,885 dead soldiers in Iraq and countless thousands dead along the Gulf Coast because of those decisions. Don’t you dare sit there with no knowledge of the slashed funding for the Army Corps of Engineers, and the missing National Guardsmen from the affected states who could have been immediate boots on the ground in the disaster aftermath and tell me to “shut up and donate.”

    A non-trivial percentage of a region’s population up and died over the course of a week with no apparent reaction from that region’s federal government.

    I will not shut up.

  4. i don’t hate kanye… like i said, get out there and make some more club bangers… don’t use your fame to try and convince me that “bush hates blacks”… when (list format coming)

    1) there is absolutely no evidence to back that up
    2) the white people of new orleans received no special treatment
    3) non-action is a whole lot different than intentioned war.

    if anything his statements are working against the cause… he said these things on a TELATHON for the red cross! chris tucker comes up next, makes and honest heartfelt plea for your support… non-partisan, non-racial… just “help these people in trouble”, and all i could think about is kanye being a complete racist asshole working against the cause and i changed the channel. is that how the red cross wants to solicit my donation? by telling me that the president is a racist? no thanks. but good luck to you.

  5. Zach, you are an advocate of raising taxes to increase spending for public programs. If you insist on complaining, you better open your checkbook at least as wide as your mouth. Or, you could say just as much by hypocritically leaving it shut.

  6. I donated $100 earlier today, and Intuit matched it two to one with another $200. Am I allowed to have an opinion now? I wasn’t aware that having a political opinion was dependent on me donating money. I’ll keep that in mind in the future.

  7. It’s not about fucking money. It’s about caring for people that need your help instead of fucking arguing about who’s fault it is. Keep that in mind in the future.

  8. Also, how does me being against tax cuts for the richest 10% of America preclude me from complaining that we weren’t airdropping food and water to people stranded on their roof for 3 days?

  9. it’s a no win for the president… the entire point of having disaster relief plans in place is so the president doesn’t have to do anything when the disaster actually hits. so one hits, he doesn’t do anything, but neither does the guy he appointed. ok, so bush hired an idiot for an idiots job… who is the real idiot? if you put a genius in that job he would make the realization pretty quickly that a relief effort would fail in a sewage flooded new orleans, so everyone should move away now. you think the public would accept that? you want to pull troops from the fuck up war in iraq? then what if the war spirals out of control and we end up with $10/gal gas and the nightmare for the world that happens in it’s wake. the truth is, there really isn’t that much we can do other than drop a helicopter in for each person and airlift them to their new white collar job. and the logistics of that simply don’t work. the citizens of new orleans drew to the donkey end of a gutshot straight, hit their miracle card on the river and got fucked by the nuts. there is no relief… there is only getouttadodge… and dodge doesn’t have enough jobs. so who is to blame? the president? maybe… be bush didn’t build those levees. the head of FEMA? maybe… but there are about a billion other things that could go wrong tomorrow that they would have just as little clue about what to do. the citizens? i wouldn’t go there, or people will call you heartless…. in the end it is a pure disaster with no one to blame. the city is dead. leave it. it was dumb to live there… the calculated risk debt collector came through town and her name was katrina.

  10. You make no sense whatsoever. Was what you said a metaphor? Let me refresh you: “If you insist on complaining, you better open your checkbook at least as wide as your mouth. Or, you could say just as much by hypocritically leaving it shut.” That seems to suggest that I’m not allowed to talk unless I pay. But now you’re saying I’m not allowed to talk period. As people are dying, I should just clutch my pearls and stare at the television. And me being against thousands of needless deaths somehow turns into me not caring?! What the fuck world am I living in?

  11. All I’m saying is that this whole argument turned political, and any sense of humanity was lost in bickering. There are real people in New Orlenas who are hurt, and no one is talking about volunteering here or helping out in any way. There is just arguing. We’re not going anywhere; we’re not flying planes to airdrop food or water; we’re not getting deputized by the Red Cross and lifting boxes of supplies out of a plane for people who need them. So who should have to listen to us complain? No one – but this website is full of complaints anyways. I don’t care what kind of tax cuts you’re against, as long as you show human emotion when others are in need instead of immediately rail against politicians.

  12. so lets say you have 200 helicopters to use. it takes about an hour to rescue a family on a roof and bring them to safe ground. now you have people spread out over hundreds of square miles. how do you allocate your choppers? you would rather have them “drop food and water to people stranded on their roof”?! are you serious? they are surrounded by sewage trapped on a man made slanted island, and you want to fly a chopper to them, and drop a few cheeseburgers?! NO, you airlift them them out of there… leaving food doesn’t help the cause, and you just don’t have enough choppers to do the job in 7 days… people want results NOW, and it just isn’t going to happen. the nature of the disaster makes rafts and choppers the only tools available, and there isn’t enough to get the job done. you want to up our chopper fleet to 100,000 just in case we need them once every 100 years? ok great, and how are you going to explain those $100,000,000,000 on the next budget? PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE… all we can do now is minimize the deaths.

  13. No, by all means, don’t clutch your pearls in horror at the television screen. Get the fuck out there and do something instead of just ALWAYS TALKING. I would be a big fan.

  14. also, all the footage i’ve seen of evacuation efforts the people left are the people that refused to leave before and refuse to leave now. they are going to die if they don’t leave… yet every day the choppers go to the same spots and try and CONVINCE these people to come with them and they refuse. (media bias warning, this is just what i see on tv)… so now, that chopper that could be doing any number of other things to help other people has to go there EVERY SINGLE DAY and try and convince the 100 people to come with them, and every day they say no. i mean, what do you do then? it’s lose lose. the world needs more people like you erin, ready to step up and execute someone elses plan… i mean, if you are unloading trucks, then someone else had to buy the food, buy the trucks, load the trucks and drive the trucks there… it may seem like bitching here doesn’t help, but if enough people who buy the trucks and food listen then maybe next time we’ll need less people to unload the trucks and we’ll save more lives. right now i feel the operation is like shooting a squirt gun on a burning house. salvage what you can and just let it burn is the best strategy. if people don’t want to come with you then either force them to come, or never come back for them until you’ve offered transport to every single other person that may need it.

  15. bottom line: the nature of the disaster is one where 1 more person will not help the cause. 20,000 squirt guns still don’t put out a fire. every single thing i’ve seen on tv says to stay away, “we don’t need more help, just send money”…

  16. hey absolutely! wirkus/scientist you’re so conned. the Bush administration systematically stripped power and money from FEMA- remember bill clinton? clinton painfully rebuilt FEMA and Bush couldn’t wait to get his hands on it – after all we wouldn’t want any “big government” left to help out people in trouble… heaven forbid… Moneypenny way go! you are right on all accounts!

  17. there are enough things that could go wrong TOMORROW, that if we had systems in place ready for them all, it would eat up 100% of our gross national profit. i personally don’t want my tax dollars going to 100 billion dollars of bullshit relief, when 1 million dollars of education could eliminate the need for the 100 billion. so now i could educate 100,000 times or relieve once. “big government” doesn’t always have to mean “big all at once spending”… my government wouldn’t let people live in new orleans in the first place. why do people still live in the gulf coast? calculated risk. the weather is great… except when a hurricane is tearing down your house. so now you want all my tax dollars to go to “big government” programs to help people that are taking a PRETTY STUPID FUCKING RISK? that is dumb. if a tornado came through tomorrow and destroyed everything i had i would not expect the government to step in 1 bit, and they probably wouldn’t. why not? because bush hates white people.

  18. “the Bush administration systematically stripped power and money”…. wow… a leader exploited his power to gain more power and wealth… that’s never happened before. so you want to impeach him? if the disaster didn’t hit we would all praise him for not spending those tax dollars even though he probably squandered them somewhere else. that is the problem with 4 year terms, there is absolutely no reason to hedge any bets that don’t pay off within 4 years. and who gets hurt in the end? the citizens. the world is fucked, and government is just an attempt to delay and control the fuckedupedness… then everyone throws a hissy when some fuckedup shines through. NO ONE IS RIGHT. EVERYONE IS RIGHT. lose lose, win win. there is no right answer to the problem other than don’t put yourself in harms way, and now that the harm has already hit, hindsight doesn’t matter and you’re all just fucked. the fact that the hurricanes are cyclical and predictable all the more enforces how stupid these people were to live in a city kept affloat by a few turbines.

  19. why do you bother with writing this hyperbolic nonsense? it’s sort of funny but totally useless if you’re actually trying to convince anyone of anything. A city has been wiped out because levees that should have been rebuilt were not rebuilt and because global warming has been sneered at and ignored, and thousands of people (people who are not white) are left to die because the people we depend on to manage things in times of crisis are not compentent.

  20. not sure if anyone noticed, but exxon mobile just posted it’s highest quarterly profits ever. why? speculation raised prices, not actual costs… thus profits go up. it’s the same way with disaster relief… more speculation is only going to equal more costs with less return. i personally don’t want a single tax dollar of mine spent on relief after a nuclear attack. if a nuke is detonated on american soil i fully expect the world to end as we know it, so planning for it is retarded. why do we have nukes? to intimidate. if someone hits us, we HAVE to hit them or we lose that. but how can we be sure who is responsible? you think someone willing to use a nuke is going to play by the rules? so now we shoot pretty much every target we’ve been drooling about blowing off the face of the earth and blame the nuke attack, or we do nothing and hope one of the next 10 nukes likely incoming doesn’t hit our city. thats about all the planning you can do. oh, and duck and cover.

  21. cal, that is my point… i’m playing out all these arguements to point out how trivial and pointless they are. NOTHING is going to help. NOTHING could have helped. the big gamble finally came up bust. blaming levees that “should have been rebuilt” is just as silly. why should they have been rebuilt? to preserve the city? are those tax dollars well spent? if that city required those levees to be rebuilt, then THAT CITY should have taxed it’s citizens enough to do it. it is not a federal issue if your city decided to live below sea level, sand bag your borders and pump out the ground water. and why does it matter that they are not white? THIS IS NOT A RACE ISSUE AT ALL. it may very well be a class issue, so if you want to run that angle, go ahead and try. what percentage of local governement in new orleans was black? i’m going to go out on a limb and assume it is somewhat close to the percentage of the local population… so now you are saying that the local black politicians were racist against their “own people”? that assumption propegates racism. if you want to live in a society where everyone is equal, then none of us have our “own people”… the race/class arguement just doesn’t hold up. who was “left to die”? if a month had passed and NOTHING was done, that is one thing, we’re on day 7 and it looks to me that just about as much that could be done is being done, but again, it’s just squirt guns on a flaming house.

  22. “the people we depend on to manage things in times of crisis are not compentent”… that one really gets me too… some of the smartest people got together and shaped our political process, and that process along with the citizens of the united states decided who was the most competent leader. the president has to deal with such a wide variety of issues that no one president can be the most competent on every issue, but if you have multiple leaders, your forces will be divided. this is another inherent flaw in any government… you can’t use that against anyone. is bush an idiot: fucking yes. did bush convince enough people that he wasn’t: obviously yes. so who is the real idiot? and the end result is once again hyperbolic nonsense. why can’t people just accept that this is a real tragedy and there was nothing we could have done, but it probably would have been smarter to set up camp above sea level just in case.

  23. what if someone actually did build that house at the bottom of the ocean… would you expect an army chopper which costs $20,000/hour to operate on call at all times just in case? no. you don’t sit around and talk about the just in case issues and then decide how to fix them, you talk about the just in case issues and then eliminate them.

  24. “I’m sick and tired of people babbling about how it’s stupid to talk about the shithole that this country is descending into. I’m sick of the media not talking about it, and I’m sick of people saying to “shut up and BUY! BUY! BUY!” our way out of 9/11, the war, and the flood. Floods happen, and I have not seen one goddamned response from anyone that blames water on the President. What I blame on the President and HIS FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY is not being able to respond in a motherfucking FEDERAL EMERGENCY because he stacked the fucking agency with motherfucking know-nothing Arabian Horse Promoters instead of people that know how to MANAGE FUCKING DISASTERS. Fucking actions have consequences, and I will not sit quiet while George Bush strides around the fucking disaster that he couldn’t mitigate because his cronies getting their fucking CASH ON were more important than being prepared to save peoples’ lives. So please, cut the shit about how you’re all above this petty political squabbling. Political decisions were made, and now we have 1,885 dead soldiers in Iraq and countless thousands dead along the Gulf Coast because of those decisions. Don’t you dare sit there with no knowledge of the slashed funding for the Army Corps of Engineers, and the missing National Guardsmen from the affected states who could have been immediate boots on the ground in the disaster aftermath and tell me to “shut up and donate.” A non-trivial percentage of a region’s population up and died over the course of a week with no apparent reaction from that region’s federal government. I will not shut up.”

  25. YOU ARE A TOOL! hey, i think we can all get along… monnypennies? are you made up yet? you’re both right, zach’s right that the prez is DUMB and erin’s right that we should not bicker and we should remember all those peeps bobbin in the water and am i right? am i right people??? for sure i am, you kids gon make up now…

  26. A fucking plus, Cal. Bravo, Zach. I, for one, was not clutching my pearls staring at the TV, because I, like many of the people left to drown in New Orleans, do not have TV. Nothing could have been done? How about a massive organized effort to bus people OUT of N.O. BEFORE the storm hit, because we all knew DAYS IN ADVANCE that a Cat. 3-5 hurricane was headed straight for the city, which would have minimized the human loss dramatically. Bottom line: when people vote for Republicans to save the babies that the Democrats are trying to kill by abortion, real people die. I am telling everyone that I know that A) Republicans hate poor people; and B) Republicans are just idiots who never learned to share in kindergarten. My mom likes to repeat the last one.

    I’ll squabble politically anytime, anywhere.

  27. Zach,

    In all honesty, I must ask you: what is your goal with all this? By this, I mean all of your political rants. Are you trying to convince me to share your point of view? If so, you are failing. If anything, you are further alienating me from the left.

    Debate need not be war, homie. I am a reasonable human. Most of the topics you tackle interest me. Is there not a better way to do this? Reread you work, man. Put yourself in my shoes. Sure your histrionics get Cal and Jen to thump you on the back, but they are already in your camp. If your goal is sheer cathartic release, then blow away, but if you are trying to reach me, a fellow human who agrees that there are problems in this world, try a new strategy. I trust your intelligence. I trust your opinion on many issues. But here, you’ve lost me.

  28. Madd and Erin, get your football picks in. Anyone else playing? Judd, you pussy. FYI I peed in your dom last time.

  29. yes, zach is right, erin is right, wirkus is right, cal is right and even big j is right. that is how fucked up of a disaster this really is. ok, so now does FEMA have a “massive orgainzed effor to bus people out” of any city that even MAY be in the path of a cat 3+ hurricane days in advance? if i remember right the last few hurricanes everyone was worried about new orleans… so we bus EVERYONE out EVERY time? what about people looting after everyone leaves? what about people who refuse to leave because they FEAR looting after everyone leaves? what about the public outcry from montana the 10th time millions of federal tax dollars are spent when it didn’t turn out as bad as planned? do you really want to be dubbed the Bush who cried wolf? everyone is right and everyone is wrong. i applaud the red cross and salvation army for stepping in and trying to fix a problem that could not be planned for. FEMA doesn’t need a competent leader… they just need coffers ready to dump on the people willing to step in and pick up the pieces 1 person at a time.

  30. I had a dream last night that I was playing poker at a casino. Somehow I was dealt 3 cards instead of 2. KKA. Instead of calling a misdeal, the dealer pulled back one of my cards. They were all face down. She pulled back one of my Kings. I was sorta pissed, but was left with AKs, so I played the hand w/o protest. Flop comes, A73, two of my suit (spades) one heart. Yee haw. Top pair, top kicker, nut flush draw. I get tons of action. Turn in a heart. More action. River is a heart. I lose to 10-6 suited to a runner runner flush. Woke up pissed off.

  31. saw these 2 posts on slashdot, and i think it encapsulates all of the discussion going on here:

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    [[[Actually – in many of the areas along the Gulf you will see that private charity (Baptists, Red Cross, various church /goodwill groups etc) were in the disaster area WELL before the government was!

    This is a pillar of the free market/libertarian ideal. People cannot depend on the government to help them, and most, not all but most, of the time it should not be the place of the government to provide support and assistance.

    Persoanlly I think that the government did have a duty here and there was obviously a breakdown in the system.

    However, in this situation, and many others, it has shown over and over again that people CANNOT depend on the government and SHOULD not.

    Free markets, individual freedoms, limited government, and personal responsibility are the most reliable courses of action.]]]

    ] ] ]

    ]]]

    seems to make sense, right? well it does to me because that is my platform basicly… then this dude responds:

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    Er… no.
    “Free markets” (ain’t) are only for the benefit of the richer, because it enables them to crush anyone smaller than them.
    Individual freedoms mean nothing if they are not protected by the government. Here, again, it profits the richer people.
    Limited government is a disaster for the poor, because they are left totally unprotected against the onslaught of the rich people.
    Personal responsibility is a gimmick invented by the rich to enable them to sleep at night because it permits them to blame the poor people for their own misfortune.
    Therefore it is NOT a reliable course of action, because it leads to a very primitive society where only the one with the most power wins, by crushing any lesser folk.

    ]]] ] ]]]
    ] ] ]

    and that seems to be everyone elses platform. the problem to me is that the government ARE the rich, and dictate who will BE rich and who will STAY rich, so in my eyes the poor people get more and more fucked as government grows… especially because more government costs more money = more taxes = less money everyone else has to throw around that might actually end up in a poory poorersons wallet.

  32. cuba evacuated 1.5 million people last year before hurricane ivan hit… i guess that just shows that dictator government with unlimited power can get things done in a similar situation.

  33. i just got back from a 2200 mile 5 day tour of the south volunteering in shreveport, la, then in jackson, ms, then in memphis, tn. before heading down there i collected supplies and other donations from friends and relatives and loaded them in the truck to haul it down there and drop it off while i was at it. so, according to the rules laid forth on this site, i should have the right to put in my 2 cents. first, don’t listen to the reports that say they don’t need volunteers, just money. they need both, and they are not mutually exclusive. if you are financially capable, but don’t have the time and ability to volunteer, then donate money. if you don’t have the money but have the time and ability, then road trip it and volunteer somewhere – they will feed and shelter you so aside from a big asterisk for gas it can be done on the cheap. my friend and i had no problems finding places to make our volunteer services useful. they will still need both money and manpower long after this is done being the hot-button issue flavor-of-the-week and after many have moved on and forgotten. second, for those normally cynical and lethargic when it comes to political action, this should serve as a glaring case for how politics DO affect every day life. yes, arguing about the political realities this week and especially last week are premature and in some cases blatantly opportunistic. because the immediate and overiding problem is people need help. i worked alongside evangelical christian states rights-and-responsibilities bush lovers, bleeding-heart liberal and progressive bush bashers, and the survivors themselves, in war zone-like ghetto conditions that no pictures or media reports can ever prepare you for, all getting along beautifully and helping each other. i’ll tell you first hand the red cross is doing an uterly phenomenal job. but the time will come for the political fallout. the bottom line is there is no blanket argument that can be applied (as is life). the local government failed the underclass and the sick by not having an actual evacuation plan that included those unable to leave with their own resources. the state government failed the people by not allowing the national guard and federal military in sooner, and by doing nothing by wednesday…WEDNESDAY!!!…of last week but cry and call for a day of prayer. NO…having faith is fine, but how about a day of ACTION!!! the federal government failed in several ways. the perfect example of fema’s failure is the fact that all of tuesday, wednesday, thursday, and friday, the media was getting their people into the convention center and superdome, showing pictures of these people with no food, water, or clean clothing. michael brown, the head of fema, comes out friday and says,”we just learned today that there are thousands of people at the convention center”. if the media is doing a better job of humanitarian damage assessment than fema, that’s a problem. if the media can get their people in and out, and if they could get buses into the superdome by then to get people out, then why, for the love of god, could our emergency management agency not do the same with water and food to tide the people over until enough buses were there for them all, instead leaving them there to dehydrate to death on national tv?? gross incompetence and failure of the people they are there top protect. the so-called homeland security department can do nothing by wednesday and thursday but give press conferences on how well things are going (iraq war propaganda style) as people in the picture-in-picture screen keel over because tanks and choppers can’t get to the same places buses and news vans can?! huh?! and bush. where did bush mess up?? two reasons. first, on tuesday when the disaster is fully developed, he has nothing better to do than give a speach in san diego about how well the war in iraq is going; doesn’t decide until wednesday as people are dying before our eyes on tv that it’s time to cut his record-breaking vacation stint short; doen’t decide until friday and saturday to give the types of real attention to the situation that we look for from a leader. sorry, while he may not be the one directly responsible for providing tangible support, he is our elected leader, and he didn’t do as good leaders do. second, there wouldn’t be this whole hypocritical arguement that will be coming en mass that it’s not bush’s responsibility, not federal gov’s responsibility, that shit like this just happens and nothing can be done about it, if not for the fact that he ran the foundation of his re-election campaign and won largely on the myth that america is safer with bush. while, no, this was not a terrorist attack, it could have been (how hard would it have been to load 3 or 4 trucks with tnt that you can easily obtain, park them next to the levees, and flood the city?). this was the first real test of the machine he built hi political power on – the same machine the would have responded had this been a terrorist attack (and btw, had it been that they wouldn’t even have had 3 days notice, so how much worse would it have been?), and it failed. miserably. progressives called bullshit for a long time on his “america is safer with me” rhetoric, and it was finally proven that in fact we are as inept as ever at handling national emergencies. but of course, these blaring facts will still bounce right off the conservative machine with the arguement of “it was the local and state governments’ responsibility, not the feds”. facts don’t phase them. finally, were people living in a high-risk area? yes. but find me a geographic area, find me any facet in life that is risk-free, report back to us, and we’ll move all 280 million of us to that happy carefree fantasy land where nothing bad ever happens and nobody has to face any risk of anything. good luck. in the meantime we’ll be here on earth trying to constructively figure out how best to protect every citizen of this country with our vast national wealth and investment capabilities.

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